la manina e la manona...
Questa manina ha 21 settimane... ed è la mano di Samuel. Una storia straordinaria che molti conoscono.... ma molti altri no. La storia di un bambino con schiena bifida operato nel grembo materno a 5 mesi di vita, perchè fuori da esso non sarebbe sopravvissuto. Questa manina uscì all'improvviso afferrando la manona del dott. Bruner che lo aveva operato... come un grazie inconsapevole; ma anche un saluto alla vita che non era scappata via.Non voglio aprire discussioni sull’aborto. Dico solo che oggi Samuel c'è e sta bene e che questa storia, che ci racconta il Barone Nero sul suo blog, va letta, perché diceva un pazzo 2000 anni fa, “la verità vi farà liberi”.
La mano della speranza
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posted by Martin Venator at 16:56
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Visto che ho sempre ascoltato le parole di quell'antico pazzo, fido anche nelle tue e vado a leggermi il post.
Un abbraccio.
ho visto tanti morti sparati nei pronto soccorso di tanti ospedali del sud. credevo di essermi fatto una corazza davanti a certe cose. ma davanti a questa foto e a queata storia mi sono commosso. grazie Martin!
ringrazia il Barone Nero... che tu conosci molto bene!
Non ho parole!
Carlitos
Ho una bambina di quattro mesi, non posso non emozionarmi di fronte a questa storia, ripensando all'ansia delle ecografie, al pensiero "sarà sano?, alle preoccupazioni del parto...io che non so niente, so solo che la vita è un miracolo.
Mi ricordo bene di questa fotografia. É la migliore testimonanza di vita. Penso che ha commosso molti cuori.
Saluti antiZP.
Maggie.
Ciao Maggie... salute a te e agli amici spagnoli...
quella foto è l'immagine di un "Io" più reale di qualsiasi teoria.
Come diceva il tuo amico Ezra: "Come nel centro nostro ardesse una sfera trasparente oro fuso, il nostro "Io" e in questa qualche forma s'infonde".
Un abbraccio
Martin
Questa foto è a dir poco stupenda!
Gran bell'articolo Anarca!
La vita va difesa!
SEMPRE!
La chirurgia in utero è una realtà da molti, moltissimi anni...ed è un'ottima realtà che fa avere fiducia nel futuro...chissà perchè contrapporla ad un'altra realtà che è quella dell'aborto...e che non è praticabile ovviamente a 5 mesi di vita intrauterina...Essere a favore di una legge sull'aborto NON vuol dire lottare contro la vita...vuol dire solamente capire un'altra realtà, che è quella degli aborti clandestini che verrebbero in ogni caso perpetrati...e che porterebbero molte donne a perdere la vita...
Ciao Inyqua...si chiama aborto terapeutico quello che consente OVVIAMENTE l'interruzione di gravidanza fino a 180 giorni, cioè oltre i 5 mesi, l'età in cui Samuel fu operato. L'aborto terapeutico si pratica in caso di grave rischio fisico della gestante ma anche per grave pericolo per la salute psichica della donna. Oggi si può abortire in età avanzata del feto per difendere una donna dal rischio di ricadute psicologiche, se il bambino è portatore di handicap gravi… ma anche non gravi. Ma il concetto di salute psichica è delicato; dipende da tanti fattori e tra questi il modo in cui la donna è assistita e responsabilizzata.
Queste immagini dimostrano (semmai ce ne fosse bisogno) che l'aborto a 5 mesi è soppressione di una vita, perché quella che agitava la manina di Samuel è vita.
Non mi va di aprire l’ennesimo sproloquio sull’aborto. Ho solo la consapevolezza che si baratta la salute psichica della donna con la soppressione di una vita. Punto e basta. Una legge lo consente per volontà popolare ma questo non mi aiuta a dormire sonni più tranquilli…
Ma per favore basta con la retorica degli aborti clandestini. C'è una legge in Italia che persino Ruini non vuole eliminare ma chiede al contrario di applicare nei suoi aspetti di tutela della vita, proprio perché tutti noi sappiamo che a quel livello che la legge è tradita. C’è una cultura diffusa ed accettata che afferma che un essere umano è tale solo se la donna lo accetta e lo riconosce come tale. Per me è una follia.
Rimane la retorica malsana di un diritto della donna che scavalca la libertà individuale, il proprio corpo, il diritto alla propria salute ed omette l’aspetto più importante… che oggi Samuel c’è… grazie a chi ha rispettato il coraggio dell’amore, ha vinto la paura, ha trovato la solidarietà che molte altre donne non trovano, l’aiuto che molte altre donne non ricevono.
Però oggi Samuel c’è; per la legge americana e italiana... poteva tranquillamente e legalmente non esserci…non è un particolare di poco conto.
Un abbraccio.
GUERRA DI DTRUZIONE e DISTRAZIONE DI MASSA CHI APPOGGIA TUTTO CIò.....non può dirsi provita ma solo un carneficie mascherato da buoni propositi,Pera e il suo manifesto delinea la sua ipocrisia,contro l'aborto ma i bambini vittime delle guerre non sono che numeri, a chi appoggia la guerra, sono complici delle carneficine del sangue e delle morti.
siete comici quanto ipocriti
Come sempre un grande......Caro martin ti ho trovato da poco ma da oggi ti seguirò con attenzione e per ora con sincera ammirazione
Il Templare
E' da poco che seguo il tuo blog e mi piace molto. Neanche in questo caso ti sei smentito! E' una foto stupenda!
Alice
ciao Templare e ciao Alice... benvenuti ad Eumeswil...a buon rendere i complimenti.
l'Anarca comico e ipocrita
L'aborto terapeutico non è una realtà che viene concessa con leggerezza, tuttavia...anzi...e non ci possiamo nascondere che esistono patologie gravi che nessuna chirurgia in utero potrà mai guarire e che farebbero del nascituro un infelice (ed anche dei suoi genitori...). Ricordare gli aborti clandestini non è retorica, è una memoria che chiunque abbia non può dimenticare...Dire che un essere umano è tale solo se la donna lo accetta (?!?) francamente non l'ho mai sentito dire...ed allorquando lo si affermasse lo troverei almeno stupido. Samuel è un esempio dei progressi della medicina. Devo dire che in quanto a retorica, ricordando 'gli aiuti che le donne non ricevono' anche tu non stai messo male
:-)...dubito molto che riceveranno tali aiuti dai volontari del movimento per la vita nei consultori però...
sono provita ma i morti civili in guerra nessuno li piange...sono vuoti di ideali e si dicono provita e le bombe quando cadono le manda dio
Ciao Inyqua... si hai ragione esistono patologie gravi... molto gravi. ma l'argomento "infelicita'" e' francamente inutile e imbarazzante. Quel talassemico di Loris Brunetta ti risponderebbe cosi':
“Bisognerebbe chiedere ai malati cosa pensano della sofferenza, invece dappertutto continua a pontificare chi non lo sa: questa cellula è sana però non è proprio come quella là, potrebbe nascere qualcosa che soffrirà, allora la butto. Voi soffrite per altre cose, perché siete grassi o infelici o non abbastanza intelligenti, perché pensate di essere malati e magari non avete niente di niente. Non è molto diverso, e allora io, in mezzo a tutti i vostri meravigliosi diritti alla felicità, pretendo il mio diritto alla sofferenza in vita”.
Non si abortisce per impedire un'infelicita'. Si abortisce per paura. Paura del dolore, della sofferenza... di cio' che forse non possiamo immaginare, ne' prevedere. Ma quella paura, se solo abbracciata da un po' di coraggio, potrebbe essere vinta. Conosco genitori che hanno accettato i loro figli malati e oggi sono felici. Conosco altri che li hanno rifiutati e oggi non lo sono. E allora mi domando se una scelta come questa sia giusto gettarla come una pietra sulla solitudine di una donna.
L'aiuto di cui parlavo e', per esempio, quello di cui parla Carmelo Porcu, parlamentare di AN affetto da tetraparesi spastica dalla nascita:oggi "le donne come mia mamma invece di sentirsi amate, ammirate o comunque di sentire la solidarietà degli altri, si sentono quasi rimproverate: ‘Perché hai messo questo figlio al mondo? Non c’hai pensato? Ti è sfuggita la situazione di mano?’. Io allora mi chiedo: perché non facciamo loro coraggio, piuttosto di scoraggiarle a fare nascere quelli come me? E poi qual è la giuria? C’è chi accampa la pretesa assurda di poter dire a un altro uomo: ‘Tu non sarai felice.”
P.S.1: purtroppo, l'aborto terapeutico e' concesso con molta piu' leggerezza di quello che pensi.
P.S.2: l'intera letteratura pro-aborto del movimento femminista dagli anni '70 ad oggi dice questo. Ed e' una cultura assolutamente radicata nel pensiero laico occidentale.
l'aborto non e che il pesiero dominante che l'uomo deve far rientrare gli eventi naturali nei suoi progetti di lavoro o di perfezione vedi per esempio le donne che in america si scelgono la provetta in base alle caratteristiche del padre,,la perfezione estetica, il successo e il rifiuto della sofferenza quasi a diventare androdi a portato si che l'aborto sia una conquista che per me e stata un'amara conseguenza di una vita lontana sempre più lontana dai ritmi naturali e sempre piu vicini a ideali di vita e a stili di vita lontanissimi dall'essenza umana.
ed e per questo che non giustifico nessuna guerra in nome della vita non ci si puo dire contro l'aborto ma pro guerra
Credo di sapere abbastanza bene cosa pensano i malati, in quanto medico ed in quanto malata...Per coloro che legittimamente difendono il loro diritto ad essere malati e 'vivi', ne esistono altrettanti (oh, quanti!..) che non la pensano così, e credo altrettanto legittimamente. Così come credo che la 'paura', come tu la chiami, con un fondo di verità, sia altrettanto legittima...E per 'paura' si fanno molte scelte in molti ambiti, altrettanto difficili, e sempre coinvolgenti la vita umana...
Con tutta l'ammirazione per Porcu, ahimè la sua patologia forse non è di quelle più facilmente indagabili con una diagnosi prenatale, quindi il suo discorso mostra un bias dall'inizio. Inoltre non si tratta solo di felicità, almeno intesa in senso puramente letterale ed edonistico. Si tratta anche di dignità e per alcune persone che questa dignità, grazie al cielo, la conservano, ne esistono tantissime che non hanno modo di pretenderla...
Ribadisco che l'aborto terapeutico NON viene sempre concesso con leggerezza, tanto è vero che rappresenta dall'1 al 3% di tutte le IVG (nelle, scarse,casistiche riportate la maggior parte avvengono per anomalie cromosomiche e/o del sistema nervoso centrale, queste ultime spesso incompatibili con la vita...) La realtà è che spesso chi lo richiede presenta effettivamente una realtà patologica grave assai chiara oltre ogni dubbio.
Sulla definizione dell'intera letteratura 'femminista' mi permetto di dissentire...forse di una parte, non certo dell'intera...
Naturalmente tutto ciò non per polemica, ma per chiarezza. Rispetto chi ha convinzioni religiose e/o morali tali da impedirgli di accettare per sè la possibilità dell'aborto. Aborro solo i termini da neo-crociata. Con simpatia.
L'immagine è davvero commovente e credo che sia un allegoria della speranza..però non credo che sia da mettere in relazione con l'aborto che è scelta fatta da donne che hanno altri problemi opposti a quelli della mamma di questo cucciolo che avrà accolto il miracolo con gioia.
Un saluto:))
cavolo Inyqua, non lo reggo questo ritmo incalzante.... spero di avere piu' tempo dopo per risponderti; intanto solo una cosa al volo. Hai ragione tu: "l'aborto terapeutico NON viene sempre concesso con leggerezza"... infatti...non sempre.
E pensare che avevo detto di non voler parlare di aborto!!! Termini da neocrociata? Non ho mai sentito dire "Deus vult" dagli antiabortisti.
Ricambio la simpatia...doppiamente.
zizzi'...mi fa piacere risentirti... ho visto che il tuo pungiglione e' tornato appuntito.
Lungi da me alimentare la polemica...ma io dagli antiabortisti ho sentito termini come 'sterminio' 'olocausto' che mi fanno rabbrividire assai più di un Deus Vult...E quella manina non afferra un bel niente, nel caso si chiamerebbe riflesso di prensione (un riflesso arcaico e assai poco evoluto filogeneticamente parlando...) ma, come ha ben spiegato il chirurgo che ha effettuato l'operazione, il feto era sotto anestesia...
Il mio ritmo incalzante è dovuto ad una forzata inattività, e non ad acidità cronica...:-)
Se ti va ne parleremo pacatamente il 17 a Roma (durante la danza del ventre? LOL)
il vostro problema... di voi stregoni in camice bianco dico, è proprio questo: togliere ogni valore simbolico alla vita.
Anche io... che non sono uno stregone del moderno, potevo immaginarmi che il feto fosse sotto anestesia; ma quel riflesso condizionato... di prensione è qualcosa di più. Anzi direi così: è talmente arcaico che affonda le sue origini nel senso della vita... volenti o nolenti. Quella manina a me ha afferrato un pezzo di cuore... ma capisco che il problema è mio che ce l'ho. La vita è carica di simboli... che valgono più delle pozioni magiche o delle spiegazioni razionali. E questa foto dimostra semplicemente che lì c'è una vita REALE, che nessuna legge, nessun diritto ASTRATTO, nessuna volontà di donna o di uomo possono provare a nascondere... come spesso è stato fatto nela retorica abortista. In Italia neanche Ruini oggi toccherebbe la legge 194 ma non usiamo quella legge per ABORTIRE la verità di ciò che è un aborto. Io il problema me lo porrei.Quella foto, e la storia intera di Samuel sono simbolo, cioé segno, di un qualcosa che non si può rinchiudere in un cavillo legislativo; perché gli esseri umani...e la loro dignità... valgono leggermente di più di un comma.
Ok, non usiamo termini come sterminio o olocausto (maledetti anti-abortisti!)...ma qualche cifretta sul numero dei bambini abortiti negli ultimi 10 anni nel mondo (grazie alle leggi abortiste di ogni ordine e grado), magari leggiamola... sempre se non turba la nostra coscienza (o non è giusto chiamarli bambini... meglio feti?)
Quindi ci sarai anche tu il 17? Ottimo... lo dico pacatamente eh!
Ma 'sta storia delle danza del ventre chi diavolo l'ha messa in giro?... con quest'aria che gira
ce fosse il rischio poi di qualche altro casino a Bengasi...
vabbè, martin, lo potevi anche dire che volevi esattamente aprire una discussione sull'aborto (dì la verità, lo hai fatto di proposito per tenermi fuori!)
PS: il tuo ultimo commento da solo conteneva 45 puntini. Fai tu...
CJ : Credo che Martin abbia messo i puntini per quel gesto riflesso (ma guarda!) che in molti determina la mia scrittura, che prende i tre puntini di vezzo non da una enorme indeterminatezza (è un difetto?) ma solo da una lettura troppo precoce e quindi densa di imprinting di un signor medico: Céline...
Tornando al punto. Quando parlo di riflesso filogeneticamente arcaico, non rifiuto che un feto sia 'vita'...ma la vita non è solo umana (ma qui entreremmo in una specie di labirinto in cui uno impugna la scienza- o quel che ne rimane...- e uno impugna la fede -idem...- e si rimane lì a girare intorno al problema). Certi argomenti hanno in sè un germe primitivo che è quello della propria 'morale'...niente di più mutevole, a quello che si vede nel mondo, a quanto pare...
In quanto alle cifre, invece, queste non sono un'opinione e, lasciando perdere gli aborti nel mondo (che risentono come tu certo non ignori di alcuni credi religiosi e utilitaristici, questi sì da rigettare, a mio parere, visto che guarda caso colpiscono sempre e comunque il sesso femminile...), per ciò che riguarda l'Italia è ben noto che questo numero, dall'entrata in vigore della 194 è assai diminuito e, se escludiamo le extracomunitarie, (cito istat e ministero della salute...)si è avuto una diminuzione del 41,8 % per cento rispetto al 1982 (e chissà di quanto se ci vogliamo affidare alle stime di merito non ideologiche ma basate sul numero dei cosiddetti 'aborti spontanei' in epoca pre-194).
Su cosa voglia Ruini e la Chiesa Cattolica è inutile nascondersi dietro ad un dito: quando si tuona che l'aborto è un o-m-i-c-i-d-i-o si vuole sanzionare, mi pare ovvio (onde poi 'perdonare'..sia chiaro...)
Sarà mio piacere incontrarti il 17...uno che pone come suo suggello una frase di E. Junger non può che incontrare la mia incondizionata simpatia..
Cj, dimmi che non è vero! Hai contato i puntini?... Stai dicendo che ti sei messa a contare i puntini di sospensione?
aspetta........1,2,3........43,44,
45.... è vero! Sono 45!
Ma lì nel west non avete un cavolo da fare che venire a rompere i puntini a me?
Non volevo proprio parlare di abbbborto... volevo parlare di vita.
Rimedierò nel prossimo post dove farò parlare qualcun altro.
Dimmi la verità cj: ma è tua 'st'idea della danza del ventre il 17? E se chiamassimo Adinolfi a farla?
Inyqua: ti dedico il prossimo post... ma ti prego non psicanalizzare i miei puntini o ti rispondo in argot... come il tuo Louis Ferdinand :-)
L'aborto non e' un omicidio... e' solo la soprpessione di una vita...per volonta' di qualcun altro (????) ok... chiamiamolo casualita'... o meglio ancora "diritto", "libera scelta", "autodeterminazione"... insomma chimiamolo come ci pare... basta che il senso rimanga quello e non lo si nasconda.
Cmq, su molte cose ti risponde indirettmante l'articolo de Il Foglio di oggi sul libro di Ritanna Armeni, nota clericale.
Su quelle cifre, sarebbe un duro colpo sapere che i dati pre referendum 194 furono palesemente falsati per condizionare l'opinione pubblica? ...azzo, staro' diventando un neo-crociato?
Come ho già scritto (prevedendo la tua risposta...) quei dati hanno un valore nei dati (certi, irrefutabili e non falsificabili...) dei cosiddetti 'aborti spontanei' negli ospedali italiani in epoca pre-194 che senz'altro erano solo la punta dell'iceberg...
Ma è un bel po' di tempo che vedo in giro questa volontà di dire che i dati sono stati falsificati (e mi riferisco a TUTTI i dati su qualsiasi cosa...)ed allora, se permetti, ognuno è in grado di manipolare i dati a suo piacimento e questo va in tutte le direzioni...
Sì, stai diventando un neo-crociato..ed è per questa tendenza che ahimè mi sento sempre più lontana da questa destra integralista....:-)))
psss... non lo dire in giro inyqua... ma anche io questa destra integralista non la sopporto proprio! sssstttt te lo dico all'orecchio: il vantaggio e' che pagano molto bene.... non come la CGIL ma comunque bene ed in piu' non sei costretto a quelle interminabili camminate in piazza!
Ci vediamo il 17! :-))))
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BOSSI e la lega. RAZZISTI
BERLUSCONI. MAFIOSO CIARLATANO
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MUSSOLINI A. FASCISTA
ROMAGNOLI.FASCISTA
RAUTI.FASCISTA
Zitti, non glielo dite: si e' dimenticato De Michelis e Cutrufo!
Carlitos
Secondo me l'anonimo è cinese...ha scritto che Casini è 'integLalista'...:-)))
possibile che non si affacci l'idea che prima della nascita la vita non può definirsi umana?
La vita umana nasce quando si forma la psiche umana, per quell'evento incredibile che è la nascita, quando ciò che era un feto sviluppato e con tutte le potenzialità umane reagisce allo stress terribile degli elementi e viene attivata la mente dal contatto diretto della sostanza cerebrale con la luce. e il feto si trasforma in bambino.
Allora e solo allora si può parlare di vita umana, che si distingue dalla vita tout court in quanto vita biologica e psichica.
è necessario uscire dall'oscurantismo prescientifico che non distingue un ovulo fecondato, un'embrione nelle prime settimane di vita, un feto che ha sviluppato l'apparato neurologico ed un bambino nato.
fino alla nascita, e nelle settimane precedenti, c'è una potenzialità di vita umana, non una vita umana. e prima ancora c'è una serie di stadi che sono uno la potenzialità dell'altro.
La dinamica della trasformazione, che fa sparire ciò che c'era, e vede le potenzialità trasformarsi in realtà. forse è lì che occorre cercare, non in moralismi, dogmatismi e interpretazioni sacrali della vita.
no...non mi si affaccia l'idea. Io invece vorrei uscire dall'oscurantismo scientifico.
hm, anch'io ne vorrei uscire, soprattutto si basa su idee prescientifiche come il pensiero che l'uomo nasce cattivo, segnato dal peccato originale, (che per freud significa perverso polimorfo) e quindi potenzialmente mostro distruttivo da sottomettere alla civiltà e ai precetti della religione. del resto anche valenti scienziati si lasciano andare al pensiero religioso, non è certo la scienza che ci ha liberato dal pensare per credenze. Però ha aperto nuovi possibili ambiti di pensiero per chi è in grado di confrontarvici. Kuhn ha evidenziato qual'è il vantaggio del pensiero scientifico rispetto ad altre forme mentis: dato un pensiero ortodosso, le evidenze che lo mettono in crisi si accumulano, e prima o poi il paradigma crolla e viene sostituito da un nuovo paradigma, insieme di teorie che spiegano meglio la realtà, e sulle quali poi si adagia la pigrizia mentale di chi è più abituato a credere che a formulare pensieri propri... fino a quando un nuovo collasso non fa emergere idee più avanzate e realistiche.
laiko...
per il cristianesimo l'uomo non nasce cattivo... l'ha creato Dio a sua immagine e somiglianza. L'uomo diventa cattivo per sua scelta; cioe' si afferma che l'uomo e' in grado di fare del male e del bene indipendentemente dalle religioni e dalle filosofie. La religione non serve a fissare precetti ma a dare senso e risposta a domande cui la scienza non puo' rispondere.
Non ti viene in mente che il pensiero scientifico (come lo intendiamo noi oggi) si sviluppa nell'Occidente giudaico-cristiano? Il problema e' uscire dal giochino: credente=dogmatico e ottuso, razional-scientista=libero e progressista. Il pensiero scientifico non esaurisce la complesita' dell'uomo...per fortuna.
sono daccordo, infatti ho precisato che anche nell'ambito dello scientismo c'è chi ha una visione dogmatica. ma tu questa visione dogmatica come la vedi?
sì, è vero, il pensiero scientifico ha questa origine. ma, e qui è il problema e il limite della scienza: ha la stessa dissociazione mente-corpo (vedi cartesio) che ci propone la religione in forma di dissociazione corpo-anima.
penso che la possibilità di superare tale limite però non esista nel pensiero religioso. In ambito scientifico, (forse?) sì. Magari dal confronto con altre culture che questo problema non ce l'hanno. Invece di rifugiarsi in comode certezze, e negare il contributo che la scienza ha dato nello svelare una parte della complessità umana, non sarebbe meglio proprio rifiutare il dogmatismo vincola la ricerca a pensieri assoluti? so che il discorso va ricondotto alla realtà di tutti i giorni: per tornare al problema dell'embrione, c'è una differenza tra ciò che uno "sente" nei confronti di un'essere umano vivente, di cui si intuisce il pensiero, e ciò che si "crede" rispetto ad un organismo composto da poche cellule ancora indifferenziate, a cui chiaramente non si possono attribuire che poche funzioni biologiche elementari. non si possono equiparare, giuridicamente ed umanamente. E' un affronto all'intelligenza, alla razionalità e all'irrazionalità che fa i rapporti umani.
Che cosa direbbe un antiabortista ad una bambina di 11 o 12 anni, violentata e messa incinta (come spesso succede) dal padre, dal nonno, dal patrigno?
Di "salvare la vita"? Quale? La sua - a 11 o 12 anni non puoi fisicamente portare avanti una gravidanza, a meno di non morire di parto assieme al bambino che solo la crudeltà e non certo "l'amore" ti ha impiantato nell'utero! - o la tua?
Che cosa dicono gli antiabortisti alle vittime di stupro?
Una gravidanza frutto di una violenza è forse un "dono"? Una "punizione" meritata - visto che nella nostra 'moderna' società la donna violentata è ancora vista come 'una che tenta e che ci sta'? - o che altro?
Davvero c'è chi crede che proibendo l'aborto - ed anche la contraccezione, visto che, nella visione oscurantista del Movimento per La Vita le due cose pari sono - non ci sarebbero più interruzioni di gravidanza?
Si otterrebbe semplicemente di legalizzare un altro, ben più tragico macello: migliaia di donne che tornerebbero ad abortire dalle 'mammane' come prima della 194 (col fai da te dei ferri da calza, dell'infuso di prezzemolo...). Migliaia di medici 'obiettori di coscienza' che poi praticano aborti - dietro pagamento - in tutta tranquillità e in condizioni igieniche disastrose. Mentre le donne "che possono permetterselo" abortirebbero tranquille all'estero, tutti compiacenti perchè "loro possono".
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mah. a parte il caso, purtroppo non infrequente, in cui il bimbo sia gravemente malformato, e allora il discorso è comprensibile e forse condivisibile, quando si parla di aborto quasi sempre (in buona o cattiva fede) si cade nel solito triste e squallido luogo comune che basa la giustificazione di questa barbarie con il fatto che le donne (più o meno giovani) vittime di stupri debbano avere la libertà di poter scegliere se portare avanti la gravidanza o no. ma parliamoci chiaramente: quanti sono realmente i casi di aborto derivati da violenza sessuale rispetto a quelli derivati da gravidanze "indesiderate"? la verità è che dietro questo argomento demagogico ma ovviamente d'effetto si nasconde l'ipocrisia meschina di chi non ha nemmeno il coraggio di ammettere la realtà dei fatti, ovvero che in nome di una libertà degenerata e volgare si uccidano bimbi indifesi, che ignari della cattiveria umana che li circonda riposano teneramente nella pancia della loro mamma e vogliono solo amore e protezione. qualunque donna che pensa di abortire dovrebbe essere costretta a vedere le immagini proposte nei link nel mio post "aborto". l'aborto è un atto tanto mostruoso, ignobile e innaturale da poter essere concepito solamente dalla specie umana, capace di disprezzare e umiliare se stessa fino a questo punto. è la negazione stessa della vita attraverso una violenza assoluta e ineguagliabile. io credo che l'aborto dovrebbe ovunque essere penalizzato, equiparato all'omicidio, con le aggravanti dell'atrocità con cui viene commesso e con l'aggravante dei futili motivi. perché qualsiasi motivo è futile in confronto alla vita. sempre. quante volte ho sentito dire che se l'aborto fosse illegale allora sorgerebbe il problema ben peggiore che le donne ricorrerebbero comunque a cliniche clandestine o strutture in senso lato pericolose. e allora? bene, benissimo! così dovrebbe essere, infatti. se una donna decide di uccidere suo figlio in un modo così meschino e orribile, mi sembra il minimo che corra lo stesso rischio. cos'è altrimenti il solo senso di colpa rispetto alla morte di quel piccino indifeso? niente. i medici che praticano gli aborti non sono altro che macellai, perché nei fatti è proprio questo che fanno. e c'è chi li chiama "medici non-obiettori": ipocriti schifosi. le loro madri avrebbero dovuto abortire, invece. come mi comporterei io una donna che ha appena abortito? la sveglierei dall'anestesia e sorridendo le darei in mano il corpicino dilaniato del suo bimbo. non era quello che voleva?
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